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Police Brutality in Winnipeg, again.

Chris Webb, July 24th, 2008

By now I’m sure all of you know about the taser death of 17-year-old Michael Langan by the Winnipeg Police Force. While it is hardly surprising that this happened, the response by some members of the public and city officials is jaw-dropping.

It is clear–and has been for some time–that the Winnipeg Police Force are out of control. Aside from this most recent “appropriate-use-of-force,” the police in this city have had inquiries against them for the shooting of aboriginal youth Matthew Dumas and the 1991 shooting of aboriginal leader JJ Harper.
Recently, they have also come under fire for dropping drunk driving charges against an off-duty officer who slammed into a car killing a woman last February.

City officials have defended the attacks saying that the use of force was appropriate and there is no reason for them to stop using tasers. If the comments on CBC Manitoba are any indication, it is clear that some Manitobans are siding with the cops on this attack and even accusing the parents of negligence and not raising their child appropriately.

The Winnipeg Police claim that this youth was “brandishing a knife,” which still remains unclear, and that he was a threat to those around him. Was he threat to a ring of cops armed with tasers and pistols? What happened to any sort of diplomacy or negotiations by the police? It is clear that these have been replaced with the use of force and 50,000 volts surging through your body. Assuming they fired the electrodes, which penetrate the skin and cause the human body to become a wet saline highly conductive terminal, then the resulting death is perhaps not so surprising. Wall terminals in North America are only 120V, and we know these can cause a severe shock. Voltages of greater than 50 V are capable of producing heart fibrillation if they produce electric currents in body tissues which happen to pass through the chest area. The electrocution danger is mostly determined by the low conductivity of dry human skin. If skin is wet, or if there are wounds, or if the voltage is applied to electrodes which penetrate the skin, then even voltage sources below 40 V can be lethal if contacted.


Consider this case:
A construction worker killed by a 13,800 volt overhead power line. A taser emits nearly 4 times the voltage.

There should be an immediate moratorium on taser use declared by all police departments across the country and an independent investigation into Langan’s death.

Chris Webb Chris Webb is an activist and journalist living in Winnipeg. He is currently publishing assistant at Canadian Dimension. Read other posts by Chris Webb.

11 Comments

  1. Please find some way to stop taser barbarism. There might be a place for it in seriously out of control known criminals with real weapons, if the life of an individual is REALLY threatened, but for heaven’s sake there is no excuse for using it on a boy, or for that matter a visitor to the country who doesn’t even speak English (or French).

  2. Policing?
    Policing ?
    You mean Government Sanctioned Death Squads under Doesn’t Speak Well Day, within the Corporate Christer Yankee Sucking Nazi Party of Steven “Hockey Puck” Harper, practicing Law Divorcement and Mental Health Interventions via Lethal Force in the instance of any opportunity to self justify cops acting out THEIR Fraidy Homicidal Tendencies on the Docile None Voting Bleating Sheep Public, perceived as the Under Classes of Useless Eaters and Breathers, whose numbers must be reduced at all costs to US, the targets, in the Us and Them Paradyn of Repressed Sadistic Authoritarianism flourishing in Canamerica these years since the none election of our President of Canada, G.W.Bush.06.. well eat it brain dead, who elected them ?
    60% of Canadians didn’t bother to vote..or read platforms, which were blatantly racist and anti social, anti Canadian..then pulled during said election, so own it..and change it, “ya’all Yankee Wanna Be’s”.
    In case no one noticed the USA is in decline and soon to be no more “the only super power on Earth”..rather the latest dead culture existing in 3rd world resourceless squalor.. and that’s the whole idea behind this Cadre of the Chilling and Willing Despots..destroy freedom and security.. implement Corporate Nazism and Resource Rape upon this country and planet..pollute at will cause Jesus coming to clean up the mess they leave us..One World Govt..Christianity or Madness.. take your pick, insanity at it’s worst coming to a community near YOU.

    Enough Right Wing fanatics in Parliament ! Shame on you Canada !! Take back the power..vote these lunatics out of office and buy them a one way ticket to Washington DC where they belong.
    Send them all, not a political party left us..Canadian Action Party ?
    Those we have are mostly planted by G W Bush and Co, trained them in how to sabotage our country and take us over..or sit and silently allow it Stephane the profane ?
    Oil is going the way of the DODO Bird and Alberta will have naught to offer anyone and be back on the Federal Welfare Roll ASAP I Hope.!! Or staring in AMerica ;-)
    Killing us with their greed driven stupidity..traitorous and corrupt..hows that 54 grand raise working out Steal Mack ?? Better than arm fucking cows, man ?
    retch.
    Park that fucking car and give some thought to others.. who don’t drive and don’t pollute..WHO HAVE RIGHTS TOO !!
    Who signed YOUR license to kill as a matter of convenience Canadians ?? Damn Psychopaths.
    All this ugly behavior is American Sponsored and classic Republicanism. Corruption !! Madness! Greed! Stupidity !
    Jesus Christ in a Flak Jacket eh ! Ol blood and guts himself working his dirty work on another people.
    Us!
    Secularists revolt now before it’s too late..or enjoy G W Bushes internment camps and work like a slave for the Land of the Greedy and the Home of the Brain Dead and Soulless.( NO sweat with the other 60% of Americans ) But Vote will ya !
    Was a time when all thinking Americans WERE Canadians!!
    Brains parked at the Mall I guess ! Stop the Tar Sands NOW !! Hack hack..retch some more..idiots.
    Divest Yankee dollar investments..crush the Donkey’s back. China call in your debt !!
    Take back our country and prosecute the separatists..hang em high..start in Ottawa..start in Quebec..but start fighting back..or go in the shit house and shoot your selves.
    Ruined this country being so comfy and fat..lazy..stupids, don’t deserve this land..stole it anyways.;-) Occupiers. Oppressors.
    Got a genocide to answer for as well..snake tongues.
    Indian power now !
    ICC to Canada NOW !!
    Enjoy the collapse folks. ;-)
    I will.
    ;-)..
    Look out Monsanto..we gonna get ya.;-)hang you.;-)..bring it on Black water..good name..that’s what we’re getting more of every day..black brackish water.. industrial puke..corporate mercs.. AH aint it grand, just so fat Canucks can drive a block to the local 7/11 neighborhood garbage dump.. like dollar stores ?..Like cheap Crap ?
    I’m done..next contestant has the floor ? Oh wait..
    I shouldn’t say it..but..
    best stock up on grub people.. and anything else you will need during the up and coming recently acknowledged American / Canadian umbilical recessions..
    get off the grid or slave for big energy..get raped this winter.. buy the solar.. just do it..crush them..make your payments work for you not against you..
    this one is a long one..passive solar heat works fine in most areas below 60. Adapt or die. Get busy. Wake up..shut up.. do it.
    peace.. ha. dream on..we Must protect American pipe lines in Afghanistan ..right ? Hello.. anyone in there?
    Enjoy the marauding refugees..murdering and raping your families..ya give the cops your guns.. ha ha..never learn..baaaa baaa..
    blam blam..you ‘re dead.

  3. So do some Winnipeg citizens think it’s ok to kill a young person if that person’s parents didn’t do a good job raising them? Is is just native kids, or does their sick thought process include white kids too?

    How is it that some people are so filled with hate, and how do we cleanse them? Seems to me we must before they destroy all that is good in the world.

  4. In response to William, wow, I’m not sure what you’re getting at man, but that was some Ginsberg-esque response.

    To Deb, I think it is absolutely appalling that some people are blaming the parents for this and saying that it’s their fault that their kid was tasered. No one wants to bury their children, and the pain this family has gone through is only worsened by the public placing blame on them.

    If you’re around Winnipeg, take a look at the lamp posts around the city and you’ll see thousands of posters calling for a ban on tasers!

  5. Why don’t we ban gangsters instead? I’m sorry, but when a man with a gun asks you to put your knife down…….YOU PUT IT DOWN or you take your chances! Idiots.

  6. The public are up in arms over the wanton use of tasers by police, not just in Winnipeg and Vancouver, but across the country, with new outrages occurring weekly. (My personal favourite is the tazering in Kamloops, B.C. of an eighty-something, bed-ridden dementia patient brandishing a pen knife.)

    It is of strategic importance that the debate has so far been limited to the use and misuse of tasers, with the response from authorities focusing on ‘training’. No attention has been directed to the general level of violence that is routinely displayed by our police. People are not simply arrested any more, Oh no! They’re ‘taken down’, as if it were a military operation in a foreign land. Swat teams are used to raid marijuana grows. Subjects of police authority are required to provide complete servitude, including assuming ‘the position’ face first on the ground.

    Its my view that this taser issue is simply symptomatic of a far bigger problem that has been purcolating since after the war. That problem is the Police operating as a political entity or force within our democratic process. And this is a form of corruption, make no mistake. Envelopes of cash do not enter the picture but the police receive a huge benefit in the form of power.

    To state the obvious, people in a free democracy govern themselves. The two important aspects of this paradigm are lawmaking achieved through the democratic process, and oversight and control of the mechanisms of government, with the exception of the Courts. This most definitely includes the police, from the dog catcher to CSIS and everything in between. To provide order to this undertaking, we elect some from among us to participate on our behalf in the myriad aspects of democratic process that facilitate this self governance.

    Nowhere in the described paradigm is there provision for the involvement of bureaucracy in the democratic process. To allow such involvement is to allow bureaucracy to be self directing. And such self direction is synonomous with rule.

    The degree of self direction is the degree to which that politically successful bureau or agency rules the people, as opposed to serving the purposes dictated by the people through democratic process.

    After the war, police forces became larger with consolidation, and more structured with centralized organizations created to advance ‘policing issues’. Perhaps pivotal to the accumulation of political power by the police is a symbiotic relationship that has flowered with the media. The media needs the good will of the police to get the news, and the police need the support of the media to further its various agendas, such being everything from protecting themselves from scrutiny for wrongdoing to attempting to direct social policy and the creation of law. They have ready access to the media to ‘get their word out’, and for free.

    An aspect of this is the nurturing and motivating of a constituency of support. ….And they have been wildly successful. Consider that mainstream polling as published in the dailys subsequent to the killing of poor Robert Dziekanski at Vancouver Airport identified 12 percent of Canadians as strong support for police actions in that matter. A further 7 percent somewhat supported police actions. This means that 1 in 8 Canadians think that it is entirely appropriate for our police to kill someone for having a ‘hissy fit’. (Makes one wonder who their neighbours are.)

    A politically powerful Police welcome such support as vindication and use it provide a facade of public authorization for authoritarian exercise of power. Any meaningful review of such has pretty much evolved to be beyond the purvue of our elected representatives. We have not directed our police to kill or brutalize anyone for having ‘hissy fits’ or a ‘bad attitude’, such as failing to comply with orders. And yet our democratic process is unable or unwilling to confront misfeasance in this manner.

    We in B.C. have had some 267 ‘in custody’ deaths in the past 10 years. Significantly, our police controlled Coroners Service refused to release this figure in response to numerous F.O.I. requests over the years. Inquests are mandated by law in instances of ‘in custody’ deaths, but they were routinely not held. ….And not a head has roled. Now that’s power!

    I believe that Police political power has been influential in the creation of law whereby violence or other misfeasance such as the destruction of property is authorized. While we Canadian society are not in the habit of lawfully encoding brutal third world police methods into our statutes, none the less that is the sum and total arrived at, with the use of the mitigating factor termed ’safety’ written into Police Operating Procedures.

    With the exception of the Criminal Code, the respective law is provincial. It will state something to the effect that no liability rests with an officer of the Crown, nor the Crown, for actions, ommissions, etc. done in the performance of their duty, or the purported performance of their duty. This appears to be a bit of a ‘barn door’, especially when its considered that it encodes the officer’s right to subjectively determine what his duty is.

    However, the ‘barn door’ gets much larger when police officials write the Operating Procedure for their Force. This is essentially regulation set by the police themselves. Key to providing ‘carte blanche’ authority for police actions is the stipulation routine in this type of self generated regulation that an officer is authorized to take whatever measures he or she deems necessary in the interest of the their safety, and/or the safety of those under their control, and/or the safety of the public, in the (wait for it)..performance of their duty.

    In a nutshell, often this is why, when under srutiny for some outrage, they will claim that they were serving the interest of safety when such a claim seems to be off the wall.

    In summary, I view our problem with the authoritarian and dismissive approach of the police to the Canadian public and our freedoms as being not so much a police problem but ultimately, a public representative problem. After all, its pretty much natural for a bureaucracy to seek to expand wherever allowed.

    It is our elected representatives that have dropped the ball at every turn by failing to ensure that the police adhere to and limit their role to that envisioned in a free democracy.

    Difficult as it is at this stage, they have to stand up to this group and demand that they retreat to operate within their mandate. This entails restricting their political and public relations activities. This entails reviewing the legislation and regulation that is enabling the abuse and violence directed toward the public. This entails ensuring that former police officers that achieve election as public representatives are not put in charge of police as Minister (this has been the case in both B.C. and Alberta in the recent past). This entails removing the police from the backrooms of our democratic processes. This entails ensuring that those that are placed in direct oversight of police are not the type of persons that, for some reason, are driven to proclaim that they are “police supporters”. This entails removing the ability for self investigation, including having one police force investigate another. And finally this includes truely independent complaint processes that have teeth.

    I suspect that a goodly number of those killed ‘in custody’ in each province would be alive today had these measures been undertaken at the point it became obvious that there was a problem with our control of the police.

  7. Re: Stuart Meade comment

    Right On!!

    I have come to a similar conclusion in the last few years.

    More training in conflict resolution and less watching of cop shows and emulating that type of behaviour would also help.

  8. Stuart Meade you are so very right…I personally know of someone who while in hadcuffs and on his knees was tasered 9 times by the Medicine Hat Alberta city police. I know that officers all must be tasered while in training, my question is are they handcuffed, on their knees and tasered 9 times, I would think not. But as Stuart so correctly pointed out, who investigates them,, another police force… Well, we all know what the outcome of that would be. Absolutely nothing!!!

  9. I only wish I had the photos to post, but of course they are evidence in a no where going investigation!!!!!

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  11. I recently had an incident with the Winnipeg Police. They came into my home and arrested my son Tim for breaches from last year. On Saturday August 16,2008 @ 11:15-11:35pm “EIGHT” police officers came into my home and arrested my son Tim for outstanding warrants on breaches from last year. These are house curfews and failing to report to his probation officer. Six of the officers had him on a bed kneeing him and tasering him “5″, yes 5 times in the back and spine. He was on his stomach with his arms crossed under him because he didn’t want to go to jail. His reason was he wanted to be with his one year old son. They finally handcuffed him after beating him and tasered him. They then dragged him by the legs to the police car, his pants and boxers came off. Tim then yelled for them to give him his pants they said why you dont need them. They then threw his pants in the trunk of the car and gave him back his boxers. They were having a hard time putting him in the car so they started kicking at his legs. When they finally got him in they said to him. “your lucky we didn’t shoot you like we did that kid!” my son said “whatever do what you gotta do”. The beating didn’t stop at the district 3 police station. Then he was taken to the public safety building, then to seven oaks hospital last. This is police brutality for you. When is the violence gonna stop against these youths.. Something has to be done..

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